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		<title>Disregard: Sealed Lead Acid Battery Longevity Log</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Dec 2017 07:34:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Scott]]></dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Edit: ACTUALLY, NEVERMIND It&#8217;s now June of 2020, and I figure it&#8217;s time to put a big &#8220;disregard&#8221; in the title of this post. While my objectives were indeed grand, there&#8217;s a fundamental flaw in my methodology: Most of the UPSes in question do not perform battery self-tests. As such, I really only find out about bad batteries when there&#8217;s an actual power failure. And those happen very inconsistently, and infrequently. (Which is good for me overall, but bad for this &#8220;log&#8221;.) For example, my power just flickered briefly and one UPS shut down as soon as the power went off. The batteries were dated as replaced on 2017-12-10. However, that UPS survived the last power outage some months ago, … <a class="continue-reading-link" href="http://s.co.tt/2017/12/11/sealed-lead-acid-battery-longevity-log/"> Continue reading</a>]]></description>
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<h2>Edit: ACTUALLY, NEVERMIND</h2>
<p>It&#8217;s now June of 2020, and I figure it&#8217;s time to put a big <b>&#8220;disregard&#8221;</b> in the title of this post.</p>
<p>While my objectives were indeed grand, there&#8217;s a fundamental flaw in my methodology:</p>
<p><strong>Most of the UPSes in question do not perform battery self-tests.</strong>  As such, I really only find out about bad batteries when there&#8217;s an actual power failure.  And those happen very inconsistently, and infrequently.  (Which is good for me overall, but bad for this &#8220;log&#8221;.)</p>
<p>For example, my power just flickered briefly and one UPS shut down as soon as the power went off.  The batteries were dated as replaced on 2017-12-10.  However, that UPS survived the last power outage some months ago, at least until I shut it down.</p>
<p>SLA batteries don&#8217;t usually fail catastrophically.  <strong>They&#8217;ll lose their ability to hold a charge over time.</strong>  So when did those batteries go &#8220;bad&#8221;?  And moreover, what exactly do I consider &#8220;bad&#8221;?</p>
<p>As I wrote below, &#8220;a decent battery should last 3 years&#8221;.  So clearly those batteries didn&#8217;t.  It was more like 2.5 years <strong>at best</strong>.  So they&#8217;re not very good, but what about batteries that fail after the 3 year mark?  Did they fail in 2 years, and I just didn&#8217;t notice until 3 years had passed?  And if they got me through a brief 5 minute outage at the 3 year mark, are they still &#8220;good&#8221;?</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve updated the info below with that latest failure, but the below data is going to be <strong>incredibly approximate</strong>, and will really only end up highlighting some of the bad batteries that completely give up the ghost in under 3 years as being brands to avoid.</p>
<h2>Atypical Post</h2>
<p>This post isn&#8217;t only for you, but also for me.  I have roughly sixteen 120V 1300-1500VA UPSes in my basement of various ages.  They each take two SLA 12V ~8Ah batteries.</p>
<p>As such, I need to replace those batteries periodically.  Being a cheap bastard, I don&#8217;t buy the branded APC or CyberPower packs, but go for inexpensive generics from eBay or Amazon.  In theory there&#8217;s no difference, but in practice some cheap batteries are, well, cheap.  I&#8217;m attempting to figure out which off-brand brands work best.</p>
<h2>This Log</h2>
<p>Hence I&#8217;m going to start logging battery replacements to get an idea of which brand(s) represent the best value and longevity.  This will always be a work in progress, because a decent battery should last 3 years.  A good one should last 5 or more.  Unfortunately I only started labeling them a couple of years ago.</p>
<p>So, uh, stay tuned.</p>
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<th>Description</th>
<th>UPS</th>
<th>Price</th>
<th>Lifetime</th>
<th>Failure Mode / Notes</th>
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<tr>
<td nowrap><strong>Power Patrol<br />12V 9.0Ah</strong><br />Amazon &#8211; C.B.C. Supply<br />Purch: 2015-01-21</td>
<td>APC XS1300</td>
<td>$12.75</td>
<td nowrap>In svc: 2015-04-09<br />Unusable: 2017-07-10<br />Years: <strong>~2</strong></td>
<td>Voltage OK, 0 Ah / Dark oxidation on terminals</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td nowrap><strong>PowerSonic<br />12V 8.0Ah</strong><br />eBay &#8211; ecomelectronics<br />Purch: 2016-02-19</td>
<td>CyberPower 1350AVR<br /><strong><em>[D]</em></strong></td>
<td>$16.00</td>
<td nowrap>In svc: 2017-12-02</td>
<td>N/A</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td nowrap><strong>ExpertPower<br />12V 8.0Ah</strong><br />Amazon<br />Purch: 2017-11-30</td>
<td>CyberPower 1350AVR<br /><strong><em>[B]</em></strong></td>
<td>$21.01</td>
<td nowrap>In svc: 2017-12-10<br />Unsuable: 2020-06-06<br />Years: <strong>&lt;2.5</td>
<td>Zero runtime.</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td nowrap><strong>PowerStar<br />12V 7.5Ah</strong><br />Amazon<br />Purch: 2017-11-30</td>
<td>CyberPower 1350AVR<br /><strong><em>[A]</em></strong></td>
<td>$11.88</td>
<td nowrap>In svc: 2017-12-10</td>
<td>N/A</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td nowrap><strong>Keyko KT-1280<br />12V 8h</strong><br />Amazon &#8211; FastBatts<br />Purch: 2017-12-10</td>
<td>TrippLite SU1000RTXL2Ua</td>
<td>$17.40</td>
<td nowrap>In svc: 2017-12-21</td>
<td>Poorly packaged; Bubble Mailer</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td nowrap><strong>PowerSonic PS-1270<br />F1 12V 7Ah</strong><br />Amazon &#8211; Ace Comp Solutions<br />Purch: 2017-12-10</td>
<td>CyberPower 1350AVR<br /><strong><em>[C]</em></strong></td>
<td>$18.50</td>
<td nowrap>In svc: 2017-12-22</td>
<td>Professional packaging.  Whoops; F1 terminals</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td nowrap><strong>genesis<br />12V 5Ah</strong><br />eBay &#8211; RefurbUPS<br />Purch: 2017-12-18</td>
<td>APC SURTA3000XL</td>
<td>$12.00</td>
<td nowrap>In svc: 2017-12-20</td>
<td>Extremely fast shipping &#038; excellent packaging</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td nowrap><strong>YUASA NPW45-12<br />12V 9Ah</strong><br />eBay &#8211; red_planet_trading<br />Purch: 2017-12-11</td>
<td>Dell 1920W (K792N) <sup>x6</sup></td>
<td>$16.66</td>
<td nowrap>In svc: 2017-12-20</td>
<td>Sloppy packaging w/9 batts.<br />UPS was not charging batts.</td>
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		<title>Sixteen (!) New Batteries for a 3000VA APC UPS</title>
		<link>http://s.co.tt/2016/02/15/sixteen-new-batteries-for-a-3000va-apc-ups/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2016 21:20:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Scott]]></dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I recently got a good deal on a 120V 3000VA APC SURTA3000XL, a 120 pound beast of a double conversion online UPS which boasts over 30 mins of runtime at half load (and that&#8217;s still over 1000 Watts)! It didn&#8217;t come with batteries, so this video shows the process of &#8220;refurbishing&#8221; a couple of old modules with new batteries, and testing out the UPS. The reason I was hunting down reasonably priced DCO UPS wasn&#8217;t because I&#8217;m especially concerned about poor-quality power from my wall, but because I needed a UPS that would play nice with generator power. I&#8217;d love to be able to afford a couple of ~7500 Watt inverter style generators (one primary and one backup) to run … <a class="continue-reading-link" href="http://s.co.tt/2016/02/15/sixteen-new-batteries-for-a-3000va-apc-ups/"> Continue reading</a>]]></description>
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<p>I recently got a good deal on a <strong>120V 3000VA APC SURTA3000XL</strong>, a 120 pound beast of a double conversion online UPS which boasts over 30 mins of runtime at half load (and that&#8217;s still over 1000 Watts)!  It didn&#8217;t come with batteries, so <strong>this video shows the process of &#8220;refurbishing&#8221; a couple of old modules with new batteries</strong>, and testing out the UPS.</p>
<p>The reason I was hunting down reasonably priced DCO UPS wasn&#8217;t because I&#8217;m especially concerned about poor-quality power from my wall, but because <strong>I needed a UPS that would play nice with generator power</strong>.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d love to be able to afford a couple of <strong>~7500 Watt inverter style generators</strong> (one primary and one backup) to run the whole house during a power failure, but the best I can do is a pair of contractor style gensets.  <strong>They&#8217;re noisy and output a mess of voltages and frequencies</strong>, but they work.  Well, they didn&#8217;t work with line interactive UPSes, but they&#8217;ll work fine with something like this APC.</p>
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